Sith Code better for everyday life?

MadHatter wrote: Why. Why must it come from within? If you find something that resonates with you and is elegant and easy to remember why should you have to come up with an entirely new code when you found one that works. Codes and words are not meaningless. They are tools. With all the meaning & use of any other tool, you use to get stuff done.

Hmm, perhaps I was not clear enough.

When saying that codes are as meaningless as words, I was partially trying to imply that they are not useless. The "meaning" is not inherent, a lot of it (especially codes) is interpreted by the user.

I am not advocating for everyone having their own little clever code written by them (though nothing bad there!). I am advocating for making the code fit you, not you fit it.

Manu wrote:

MadHatter wrote: Why. Why must it come from within? If you find something that resonates with you and is elegant and easy to remember why should you have to come up with an entirely new code when you found one that works. Codes and words are not meaningless. They are tools. With all the meaning & use of any other tool, you use to get stuff done.

Hmm, perhaps I was not clear enough.

When saying that codes are as meaningless as words, I was partially trying to imply that they are not useless. The "meaning" is not inherent, a lot of it (especially codes) is interpreted by the user.

I am not advocating for everyone having their own little clever code written by them (though nothing bad there!). I am advocating for making the code fit you, not you fit it.

Ok thanks for clearing that up though I do not agree that you should always find a code to fit you. Sometimes one should fit the code. One can have bad habits and inclinations that if you did not have a code be it personal or otherwise that encourages you to keep in check would run rampant.

MadHatter wrote: I do not agree that you should always find a code to fit you. Sometimes one should fit the code. One can have bad habits and inclinations that if you did not have a code be it personal or otherwise that encourages you to keep in check would run rampant.

I see your point. I would argue that it depends on "how" you describe the methodology that "fitting the code" implies. If it means taking deliberate effort to analyze the merits of things and introspection to discover internal triggers for the destructive behavior, then sure, I agree. However, if fitting the code means trying to repress feelings without properly processing them and understanding the underlying mechanisms that cause them, then I disagree. In the former, you follow a code because it represents your beliefs. In the latter, you follow a code because it is a code.

Don't underestimate how easy it is to hate anybody.

Just shift your perspective a tad.

It's all in what we choose to see about a person.

Connor L. wrote: Don't underestimate how easy it is to hate anybody.

Just shift your perspective a tad.

It's all in what we choose to see about a person.

I agree with this.

Quite often when someone hates someone else it is because they are fixated on one or two "negative" aspects of the person.

Every club is different. Some places dont want you around if you didnt come in to go to war. But fighters arent all that different and if you go trying to kill all of your sparring partners then (unless your really good) youre eventually going to start getting effed up every time you show your face lol

I train "MMA"..we really go after each other on certain occasions, but the overwhelming majority of our sparring sessions we are working on specific things to improve our game, not just trying to crash each others heads in. I mean we're free to be as aggressive as we want but then again so are our trainig partners lol and we have people from the beginner level to the pro fighter level.
New guys come in every so often wanting to go to war, and yeah they beat up some of the less experienced or smaller people, but they get dealt with by the higher level guys and eventually they either get busted up enough that they learn to chill or else they move on. At my gym we train sincerely and we compete to win, but we are also team mates and friends (mostly friends, anyway lol) and we're not tolerating any assholes to come in and just beat up on everybody lol

Like i said, I dont really know how it is in boxing gyms, maybe your coaches are looking for everyone to be in serial-killer mode all the time. But fighting is fighting, and i know fighting. The best fighters are the ones who are thinking the quickest and reading the opponent the best, and the ones who have the most appropriate game plan and are sticking with it. Your mind needs to be observing what your opponent is doing and how to punish him for it, how to set him up or wear him out, or make him miss or mess up. If youre consciously feeding into your anger then thats where your mind is at. Yea it can get you through a gorilla brawl but brawlers tend to get brain damage a lot faster than thinkers do.

The Star Wars codes were written by aspiring young authors who wanted to make their corporate master George Lucas happy by selling millions of books to starry-eyed science-fantasy readers (which theres no shame in being a starry-eyed sci-fan reader) but the point is that those codes come from people who just wanted to make a buck by tellijg an entertaining story. They werent written by trained philosophers, or scientists, or psychologists, or theologians, or anyone else who had really dedicated their lives to the genuine pursuit of truth or wisdom or legitimately useful and effective life strategies. If you want the foundation of your psychological frame of reference to be built around what may as well be some college kid's art project then go right ahead, but there are infinitely better sources of insight and guidance available.

Maybe_the_sith_arent_so_bad wrote: I have found that the Sith Code is far more applicable to my daily life then the Jedi code is. I often use hate to sustain myself during workouts and boxing matches, be it just frustration at life in general or hate of the opponent. Thoughts?

Tbh, imo the codes are kinda useless and could cloud our understanding. The maxims and creeds seem more thought out. Peace can be found in passion. It's the difference between righteous indignation and uncontrollable rage.

Passion is a part of our soul. It's intense e-motion(energy motion). Anger, fear, sorrow, our energy is moved into action.. but we should be measured in how and where we allow ourselves to be moved by external/internal stimuli.. applying when most effective..

"Be mindful of your thoughts"
"Peace in Passion leads to greater Strength"

Jaedon Adar-Barnaby wrote:

Maybe_the_sith_arent_so_bad wrote: I have found that the Sith Code is far more applicable to my daily life then the Jedi code is. I often use hate to sustain myself during workouts and boxing matches, be it just frustration at life in general or hate of the opponent. Thoughts?

Tbh, imo the codes are kinda useless and could cloud our understanding. The maxims and creeds seem more thought out....

The Doctrine ect here is good but otherwise i would say even as simple as the boyscouts oath is a better reference for real life decisions than either the jedi or sith codes, or much of anything from the fiction.
The SW books are lessons is wisdom and philosophy in exactly the same way that the Harry Potter books are lessons in witch-craft or the Alex Cross novels are lessons in police work.

The boyscouts oath goes (paraphrasing)

"Service to Everyone Else
Service to You
Service to Me"

Strangely enough, the order of care for emergency response is

"Help Me,
Help You
Help Everyone else"

"Better than this cartoonish bullshit" doesnt mean "the best code one could ever aspire to live by" but I was thinking of this one:

"On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight."

I can see how someone might interpret that as putting others first at all times, but personally i took it tomean that i would ALSO help others, as i was helping myself.

Then again i was never a scout, so lol