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I like the prequel trilogy!
*que Darth Vader them*
On a serious note though, I don't quite understand why there is so much hate directed at the prequel trilogy. While I agree there are some problems with it, like Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christenson's whinging in attack of the clones, I thoroughly enjoyed the plot lines, the characters and the stories!
I think the real reason so much hate was put towards them was because they were different from the original trilogy, and many fans didn't like that. If you look at "the Force awakens" it has a lot of similarities to "A new Hope" and has many designs and concepts from that original trilogy, and it was a huge success!
However the prequels were different, mainly because the bad guys won. With the original trilogy the good guys triumph and save the day, in the prequels they are nearly exterminated! Just because something is a little different though, doesn't mean we should throw unnecessary amounts of hate at it for little reason!
I personally love the prequels, with Revenge of the Sith being one of my favourite movies! On top of that, the Clone Wars series is brilliant!
Anyone else agree/have thoughts?
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Death, yet the Force wrote: YES, you read the title correctly, I really like the Star Wars prequel trilogy!
*que Darth Vader them*
On a serious note though, I don't quite understand why there is so much hate directed at the prequel trilogy. While I agree there are some problems with it, like Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christenson's whinging in attack of the clones, I thoroughly enjoyed the plot lines, the characters and the stories!
I think the real reason so much hate was put towards them was because they were different from the original trilogy, and many fans didn't like that. If you look at "the Force awakens" it has a lot of similarities to "A new Hope" and has many designs and concepts from that original trilogy, and it was a huge success!
However the prequels were different, mainly because the bad guys won. With the original trilogy the good guys triumph and save the day, in the prequels they are nearly exterminated! Just because something is a little different though, doesn't mean we should throw unnecessary amounts of hate at it for little reason!
I personally love the prequels, with Revenge of the Sith being one of my favourite movies! On top of that, the Clone Wars series is brilliant!
Anyone else agree/have thoughts?
Have you read the novelization of the Revenge of the Sith? It's the second book in "The Dark Lord Trilogy" and is written by Mathew Stover, (the first and third in the series by James luceno) and reveals much more in the relationship between Palpatine and Annakin.
There are "no cheese" edits of the prequels available on youtube, and they really make the Movies a different experience altogether. Although I will never be a fan of Jar Jar, the prequels gave me my favorite jedi of all time (Qui Gon) Darth Maul, Sir Christopher Lee as Darth Tyranus, alongside the literary genius's of Luceno and Stover and the great acting chops of one Ian McDiarmid helped turn my most hated character in the Star Wars mythos into my absolute favorite.
Could the trilogy have been directed better? Most definitely, they're not without their individual hickups and problems, but the positives outweigh the negatives by quite a large degree imo...
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The main reason I like it though is for Darth Maul. Ray Park is a serious bad a$$. I really wish he had a bigger career. (Toad in X-Men? Really Ray?).
Personally I couldn't handle Hayden Christenson's whining. They took Darth Freaking Vader and made him turn to the dark side because he was a cry baby. Plus the mountain of other writing and direction mistakes in II and III. Plus the fight choreography was different, I didn't enjoy it.
I did enjoy the Clone Wars series, but I don't group those in with the prequels.
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But I, like some others here I'm sure, am in the position of having started with the prequels (well, Episode I, anyway), before seeing the originals - and I can understand why those who saw and loved the originals first found the prequels a little hard to swallow. Similarly, though I liked The Force Awakens, it's a little bittersweet - it will never be proper Star Wars, not for me...
Given time (such as the time between the original and prequel trilogies, or between the prequel and current new trilogies), people's personal interpretations become personal canon, and it can be difficult to accept new things that challenge that (for example, the huuuge problem that lovers of the original trilogy had with the introduction of the idea of midichlorians, or for me the idea that someone with no Jedi training whatsoever can pick up a lightsaber and duel Kylo Ren or manipulate the mind of a stormtrooper).
But personal-canon-violation aside, one of the biggest problems with the prequels was the, at times, absolutely terrible dialogue. They did better with some characters than others, but if even Natalie Portman - the oscar winning Natalie Portman - can't make her dialogue bearable, you know there's a problem...
But crimes (of writing) against Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen aside, I really do love the prequels (I mean, Episode III usually has me in literal tears - none of the others have ever done that). Some might argue that it's contra to the original point of how Darth Vader was depicted in the original trilogy, but I always like to be able to humanise my villains, and, amongst other things of course, that is what the prequels give us...
Edit: They also give us Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan, and that alone makes them worthwhile...
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V-Tog wrote: Edit: They also give us Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan, and that alone makes them worthwhile...
It makes them more than worthwhile. He's amazing in that role.
I like to think they'll get him back to play 'Ghostly-Wan', and that he's been keeping Luke company on that island all these years :laugh:
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There is something charming about the original movies and the practical effects used. I like that they made an asteroid out of a potato. I like that the dogfights were filmed using actual models and the sound effects were actually recorded rather than synthesized.
The prequels look and sound amazing, but they smack of digital manipulation and green screen magic. A lightsaber duel over a river of lava is awesome, but it comes off as if ILM just wanted to show off all of their new tricks. The look of the movies took precedent over the dialogue and direction, in my opinion.
I know I sound like the ol' fart telling the kids to get off my lawn, but I liked Yoda as a puppet and an actual actor inside R2.
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Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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Maybe that is the point, but lately I've been looking past the characters and trying to focus on patterns as symbols. Explains Jar Jar being hard to watch :side:
Might be a bit premature there though, as I'm mostly focused right now on how the originals serve as separate iterations of the heros journey, and haven't gotten properly to the prequels yet but if true, then it might offer some kewl insight - being so stretched out.
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"Star Wars the Phantom Menace is the most disappointing thing since my son. I mean how much more can you possibly fuck up the back-story of Star Wars?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
Attack of the Clones
"Why is it so bad you ask? Well it'll take a little while to explain because basically the answer involves every single thing in the film."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPt1am18lR4
Revenge of the Sith
"Star Wars Episode 3 is the most disappointing thing since Star Wars Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYWAHuFbLoc
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