I was thinking lately about Jediism versus Christianity.....
It isn't a case of one versus the other, really....
But, as we hear when we are young, learn when we get older, and understand, well, when we understand "the game of black and white", thing are best known by their opposites...
You can generally know something in quick terms...
The game 20 questions shows us that...
Even the electronic, hand held version of it, can guess "poop" in less than 20 guesses...
Obviously, Jediism, isn't an animal, vegtable or mineral, it is a thing..
(The newer version asks 'animal, vegetable, mineral, thing, or idea, pigeon-holing things yet further...)
Anyway, by saying its a thing (or idea), we know its not a elephant, not a plant or a rock...
It could be a waterfall, as it is a thing (yes, so are elephants, plants and rocks, stay with me... Tear up my overall idea, not the individual statements I use to get my point out...;)), but, it definitely, definitely is an idea....;)
So, to define it, we have to look for what it is not, its not an idea about fishing... Nor knitting..
It's about belief, to some, it is about religion...
So we have to compare this apple to other apples...;)
Christianity being the "Big One", we can use it...
Now stripping away the personality, and name God, we can (I can, anyway) say that it is pretty close to the same....
I don't trust the bible, it was old when it was written... It has some great lessons, don't get me wrong, but all of life does... And the bible was written about things that are in the past... Even for then, they told about past things...
And, has old ideas... "same sex relations forbidden", "stonings", what else? Im no biblical scholar, lol...
From what I remember, there was some prophecy, but less of that...
More like "remember and honor the past" kinda writings...
Every story has lessons, not just the bible's stories...
Current stories, movies and books, predominantly take place in the present....
Considering the age of man, really, compared to our planet, even the bible isn't really old, but, its not current either...
Whereas most of todays stories, are happening now, 100 years ago, to 100 years from now.. Really, not that long...
"The Matrix", "Star Trek", "Flash Gordon", "Buck Rogers and the 25th Century", "BattleStar Galactica" and so many more talked about the future....
They had a hero, or heros, who against all odds, seemed to scrape through on luck and grit.. Maybe like MacGuyver, using some spit, bailing wire, and duct tape... Always need duct tape... Or, how Star Wars coulda turned out had they focused on Han Solo and Chewie...
But Star Wars was a bit different... They are set in the way off future too, but, the trust in an unseen power was what really sets it apart from so many other adventure movies...
Something that few other movies have....
Anyway, back on point...:)
So, Christianity v. Jedi Path (Jediism)....
I used to say we (Jedi, or similar minded people) would, once eternal consciousness took hold on everyone, would, and will be the next stage in the evolution of "religion", of "belief"...
And, we still may be...
What I see as our biggest obstacle, is people enjoy the "personal" aspect of "their" God....
We love putting names to stuff... Everything has nicknames, everything gets personal....
But, is the force personal?
For some it probably is, they call it God, or Allah, or something.. They give it a name...
But for most of us? I think not... Does it need a name, such as God, or Allah? No, I don't think it does..
Anymore than our automobiles deserve a name...
I don't know, really.. lol...
In the end, we each must do what we feel is right...
If this writing does nothing else, I hope you think about it...:)
Even if you think im wrong! Lol.. ;)
May the Force be with You...
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You are always welcome to do that... :-)
I studied so much christianity as a child, I really couldnt care less about it any longer... ;-)
In this sermon, I did not delve too deep into either, just sort of skimming the top of each for length... :-*
Thanks you for reading... :lol:
Yet it is also amazing and the source of everything we have.
Just because I don't think it's personal does not change the fact I find it inspiring and life-changing.
Thank you for the sermon :)
Good sermon.
You are always welcome to do that... :-)
I studied so much christianity as a child, I really couldnt care less about it any longer... ;-)
In this sermon, I did not delve too deep into either, just sort of skimming the top of each for length... :-*
Thanks you for reading... :lol:[/quote]
I actually was going to make an educational thread
for somebody who studied christianity "so much"....
you have gotten your fair share wrong.
Good sermon.[/quote]
yeah, because you are a person and I am a person, it's how we interact with the idea, story etc....
I thought about what Jestor said and read it
but this is not a new idea, nor is it good in my opinion...
You are always welcome to do that... :-)
I studied so much christianity as a child, I really couldnt care less about it any longer... ;-)
In this sermon, I did not delve too deep into either, just sort of skimming the top of each for length... :-*
Thanks you for reading... :lol:[/quote]
I actually was going to make an educational thread
for somebody who studied christianity "so much"....
you have gotten your fair share wrong.[/quote]
lol, well, feel free to enlighten me...
I really wonder how much I have gotten wrong... :cry:
The remarks I have made were very general, and my interpretations of the things I heard and remember...
Who knows, I might even read your interpretation, and be converted back...
There is always the chance...:)
Good sermon.[/quote]
yeah, because you are a person and I am a person, it's how we interact with the idea, story etc....
I thought about what Jestor said and read it
but this is not a new idea, nor is it good in my opinion...[/quote]
Oh crud..
You mean I cannot talk about things others have talked about?
Shoot...
Well, my apologies to all who read my regurgitated words of another...
My bad...:)
Still, in order for any statement to have validity in a case like this, I think it should be at least presented in comparison to the countering one with an explanation as to why either of them should or should not be regarded as more or less true/valuable under given circumstances.
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Are you specifically addressing me?
I would ask for examples...
I have never stated that the lesssons were dated, only the book itself....
[quote]Still, in order for any statement to have validity in a case like this, I think it should be at least presented in comparison to the countering one with an explanation as to why either of them should or should not be regarded as more or less true/valuable under given circumstances.[/quote]
What claims have I made? Other than my opinion?
Good sermon.[/quote]
yeah, because you are a person and I am a person, it's how we interact with the idea, story etc....
I thought about what Jestor said and read it
but this is not a new idea, nor is it good in my opinion...[/quote]
Oh crud..
You mean I cannot talk about things others have talked about?
Shoot...
Well, my apologies to all who read my regurgitated words of another...
My bad...:)[/quote]
you can if you want, that wasn't what I was trying to say
but it felt like he was reacting to it like it was brand new ideas
I like sermons like this, its like you are having a conversation.
Jestor, while I have always enjoyed your posts on the website and your sermons in general, I must say this isn't my favorite.
While I find the topic of Jediism vs Christianity or any other religion to be interesting, I feel the execution here is lacking.
Not only is this article somewhat incoherent and difficult to read, going off on tangents and the colloquial nature of the language used honestly leaves me looking for more.
Also, the actual topic of Jediism vs Christianity seems like it was barely even talked about, rather simply brought up.
There is very little comparing and contrasting of the two religions systems in this sermon, instead there are your thoughts on why Christians aren't ready for Jediism yet.
Again, I love your writings and the mindset you have seemed to express over my time on this website, but this feels like a miss to me.
Love and respect to you,
Cory.