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06 Dec 2019 21:39 #346887 by ZealotX

CaesarEJW wrote:

ZealotX wrote:
...and no, man made things aren't natural. That's why we make them.

Beehives or anthills don't occur naturally without the intervention of said species.
Following your logic, such things should be classified as "bee-made" or "ant-made"
However, we generally regard those things as naturally occurring.
What makes man-made things different?
We are animals too, just a lot more complex.
But we are still a naturally occurring species, which would logically entail that our creations, however complex, are also natural phenomena.
We make "man-made" things because, while they may not intrinsically exist in our surrounding world, nature not only has the available resources to create such things, it also has endowed us with gifts that allow us to create such things.
The ingredients are natural, the processes that allow for the manipulation of the ingredients are natural, how is the product any different?


since I don't want to get into an argument with name calling I will simply point you to two dictionary definitions and a reddit post of a discussion.

nat·u·ral
/ˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
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adjective
1.
existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.
"carrots contain a natural antiseptic that fights bacteria"
2.
of or in agreement with the character or makeup of, or circumstances surrounding, someone or something.
"sharks have no natural enemies"

www.google.com/search?q=natural+definiti...ceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/natural
www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/4wi...tural_and_unnatural/

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06 Dec 2019 21:42 - 06 Dec 2019 21:55 #346888 by CaesarEJW
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