Can't be a Jedi if you support Trump...?

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29 Aug 2019 18:37 #342777 by Kelrax Lorcken
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ZealotX wrote:

rugadd wrote: Hilarious! So riled up about what we're told! I imagine this is how Christianity became so important...

Honestly, how many of you are educated in statecraft? Have the information necessary to make cogent decisions over millions of people's welfare? Realy expect that what is available to us outside of those upper echelons is enough to make a decision of truth and rightness?

No.


I don't blame any of you. If that is what is important, you have to make a decision. And what decision could you make but by what information is available to you?

I appreciate that you are playing the game and it is important to you. Just remember that your not the player, but a pawn. (Assuming none of you holds a position in national politics, that is)



Sorry but when was Donald Trump educated in statecraft, where is that diploma/degree, and why does he suck at it so bad?

ANYONE can run to be president, as 2016 showed us. America simply rolled the dice on a corrupt businessman as a segment of America longed for the days when they had elected an actor.


I get more of a sense of "Reagan and Nixon did the fusion dance " off of Donny, personally.

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29 Aug 2019 18:37 #342778 by Kobos
And when the Nazis became not involved because Trump's actual policy action is further to the left than their ideology?

Does the slaughter of innocents under the idea of socialism as stated by the Dayton shooter matter in this equation because that was pretty Nazi like?

Again I do not like trump but this kind of rhetoric and grouping of people has literally gotten people killed. Like factually people have died because of these exact type of exchanges in the public forum.

"Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal"-Immortal Technique

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29 Aug 2019 18:42 #342779 by ZealotX

Kobos wrote:



Also, let's take a moment and re-assess the opening question using an analogy:
  • Jedi believe the sky is blue.
  • Orange man says sky is green.
  • You support orange man.
  • By association, you support orange man's claim sky is green.
  • You no longer believe sky is blue.
  • ∴, you are no longer Jedi.


Brilliant analogy. But if it was as innocuous as the color of the sky we would not be questioning anyone's Jedi-ness.

its more like Jedi believe in "the inherent worth of all life within it"
Orange man says "send the sick kids home to die"
you support Orange man
By association you support Orange man's policy reversal to "send the sick cancer kids home to die"
You no longer believe in "the inherent worth of all life within it"
you are no longer Jedi

hmmmm....

I THINK this could be reassembled and simplified (although I admit to not being the best person at doing this).

If you believe in "the inherent worth of all life within it" how can you support Orange man knowing he wants to "send the sick cancer kids home to die"?

This is kind of like saying...

You know that Hitler isn't a fan of Jews but Hitler says "I have cookies".

You like cookies so you support Hitler. Hitler gives you cookies. You smile and dip them in milk. You even pay Hitler $5 for the cookies because his daughter is in girl scouts.

Hitler uses your $5 to build gas chambers.

If you didn't know he was going to do that... hmmmm.... okay?? But if you knew he was currently building gas chambers with your $5...

Do you keep buying his cookies???
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29 Aug 2019 18:46 #342780 by ZealotX

Kelrax Lorcken wrote: I get more of a sense of "Reagan and Nixon did the fusion dance " off of Donny, personally.


You are 100% correct, sir.

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29 Aug 2019 18:49 #342781 by Kobos
So, I am going to check out of this conversation because being a student of history, I in good faith cannot continue a discussion where one compares someone to Hitler in a literal sense, a man responsible for over 10,000,000 death with out the causalities of war to stop him.

Like I said please please stop making me defend orange man.

Anyways much Love, Peace and Respect,
Kobos

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29 Aug 2019 19:04 #342783 by Carlos.Martinez3
I’m confused - so because I -x I’m- y.
Never understood that mentality. Any how - Force be with you.

That’s why I don’t post on politics. I always get painted a different color for no reason.

It’s clear you have your choice just ... don’t count me in all this any more - I’m good. Ain’t a nazi - still a Jedi - still allowed to make my own choices regardless if any one is with or without me...
That’s ok too I guess ...
Happy seeking all...

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29 Aug 2019 19:26 #342784 by Carlos.Martinez3

steamboat28 wrote:

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Yes , every where not only in America.

Since you're universally and chronically obtuse, allow me to rephrase: People are dying as a direct result of Trump's policies.
You know damn well what I meant.


Also, let's take a moment and re-assess the opening question using an analogy:
  • Jedi believe the sky is blue.
  • Orange man says sky is green.
  • You support orange man.
  • By association, you support orange man's claim sky is green.
  • You no longer believe sky is blue.
  • ∴, you are no longer Jedi.

Was I no longer Jedi when Papi sent me to war ? Bill? W.? Barack? We’re soldiers nazis when they did their jobs?
Um no- nice assessment but I can’t - do all this.
The sky reflects color. Regardless of who calls the sky what color at what time in what part of the world- I am still a modern day Jeddist. Regardless of who holds this to be true or thinks I don’t deserve the title - still a Jedi.
People who TELL other people what they are - are us usually not right.

It’s ok . I understand ... I think.

Sorry if I’m no fun ... I know.

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29 Aug 2019 19:30 #342785 by ZealotX

rugadd wrote: He is a puppet to entertain the crowds and he certainly has your apt attention.


If we were using conspiracy theory math I would disagree and say Hillary was supposed to be that puppet.

Trump is more like Putin's puppet. At the very least this is how he behaves. But because of this I can't buy into the conspiracy math that the elite always win because ____. No, they buy advertising and marketing and use their money to influence actual votes. But its not predetermined. The people can still vote for whoever they want. This time who they wanted was Trump. Rich people lobby poor people just like they lobby other rich people. The more money you have the louder your voice and the more powerful your influence and the further your reach.
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29 Aug 2019 19:30 #342786 by rugadd
Only two responses? Patently false, friend. People respond in lots of different ways. You just wish it was that simple, or decided it should be and are going to hold everyone else to that standard, no matter what that means you must do to uphold it.

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29 Aug 2019 19:34 #342787 by rugadd
Zealot...then why are watching him and his antics instead of the money? I mean, if you want to affect change...

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