Is society outrageous or is society just outraged?

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13 Jun 2019 01:11 #339665 by Kobos
I had someone mention something in similar wording and didn't really have an answer on it. So if you got a few minutes let's take a look?

Is society really as outrageous as we are seeing or are we just outraged constantly now?

I honestly do not have an answer on this yet so when I do, I will throw a response below.

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13 Jun 2019 01:40 #339666 by Proteus
The question might seem a bit vague. Can we have some context?

It seems that I know that I know.
What I would like to see is the 'I' that knows me when I know that I know that I know.
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13 Jun 2019 02:41 #339667 by Adder
To me its part of an expanding of penetrative awareness, such that transparency develops where none was previously, and so the 'picture' gets much worse.... but it just happens to be more a case of it becoming more accurate.
This is a roadblock developing nations need to push through, because change is slow and not in isolation from chains pulling them backwards, as older dynamics distort blame through identity politics to wrestle for power.
But another way is the spread of information from big increases in accessibility via the capturing, delivering and accessing of information. Of course what is happening changes because circumstances are always changing, but it boils down to people doing things which have impacts. With the greater reach (breadth and/or depth) we are less able to involve ourselves in things we think need involvement, so we're unable to develop a strong association between our morals and our actions in the field of our awareness. We are probably built to have a strong association between those things, and so I think our minds work on issues even if we know we cannot do anything about it. When cognitive resources are drained, then emotions take over as the power shunts down the line to the subconscious processes, and eventually the deeper less controllable passions start to become the only option to engage ourselves in action, for want of better solutions as a result of overload and/or depletion of mental resources. Outrage is probably a step in that process, but I think society has always been outrageous, so can I answer both!?

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13 Jun 2019 03:07 #339668 by Kobos

Proteus wrote: The question might seem a bit vague. Can we have some context?


So the question posed to me was from a colleague, another history teacher. He is a little older but was talking in the context to how would a historian explain the world at this moment and how to teach that, would it be like Edward Gibbon, would it be strictly objective or does that not even come close to existing? But, he left it pretty vague too, I'm sure on purpose, forcing me to think about the whole.


Adder, yes you absolutely can! I honestly, think that may be the point he was trying to get at.

I look forward to responses because this genuinely interest me, call it remnants of the retired punk in me.

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Same song can't go wrong, if I play the nice guy
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I remain still the same (why Tu'?), cause it's the same song
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13 Jun 2019 14:28 #339674 by Carlos.Martinez3
People are strange - some people are even stranger. ( que Lost Boys sound track!) people come in various shapes and sizes and even levels and ways. We know this ... man! Hahaha I met an old man who had a beautiful Monte Carlo - old - all steel - and in it newspapers to the point you could only sit in the drivers side - barely. He stunk and he always had that whisky sour look on his face. Nothing you said could change his mind that the world was shit. His words. He sat at a cafe with other folk just like him. In the small town of Clifton Texas, there’s a few places to sit down and have a cup of coffe - the town gas station was it. You could feel the - junk they gathered not to mention the smell. 6 - 630 am we all payed n left then after that the attendant would mom for the sake of the smell - every morning. People are people. Depending on what your frequency is ( what you frequent) some times sets your focus or mood and some times ... even your smell. Lol where and who isn’t the focus most of the time but ... as a wise franchise once said thru a very good character “your focus determines your reality.”

So yea, some people are just grouchy all the time. Some are happy , some are bored - some are malice and some are giving. 7 billion and counting brotha- who you gunna sit next to?

Social media seems to be able to magnify where our focus s are and if we look at our browser history - there can be a tell-tale of our online focus. Same can be said for our places and people we interact with. I leave you in peace and joy knowing that it’s people like us - me and you Tim that can make these little mentions and “notice-ments” and re focus ourselfs on a daily basis and I leave you with this quote from the muppets -

"Hey. I tell you what is. Big city, hmm? Live. Work, huh? But. Is not city open. Only peoples. Peoples is peoples. No is buildings. Is tomatoes, huh? Is peoples, is dancing, is music, is potatoes. So, peoples is peoples. Okay?" - Pete (Louis Zorich), a Manhattan restaurateur, to Kermit the Frog, offering perhaps the best statement of life wisdom depicted in cinema, in The Muppets Take Manhattan (1984).

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13 Jun 2019 16:58 #339682 by elizabeth
Is society really as outrageous as we are seeing or are we just outraged constantly now?

I dont think society as a whole has suddenly become more outrageous. Its more our personal connection has widened, so we see/hear/interact more.
We are more aware now of what is happening and understand more the implications of whats happening in our wider society and how it impacts on us.

As well we now can collectively be outraged about something and spread that message instantly where in the past if it didnt happen close, odds were you would never hear about it.


Its also easier nowadays to feel entitled to be outraged about things and a lot harder to find people willing to be open minded enougth to actually embrace the idea that there are two sides to most things.

There is no light without the dark

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15 Jun 2019 02:01 #339754 by Kobos
Thank you guys very much for the replies. I am still thinking on this. But your replies have helped me kind of grasp a more clear idea of what this question means.

I will have a reply for this eventually. I would love others to contribute!

The more pixels a clearer picture!

Much Love, Respect and Peace,
Kobos

Get some fame, people change, wanna live they life high
Same song can't go wrong, if I play the nice guy
(Claim the fame must have changed, now that we became strong)
I remain still the same (why Tu'?), cause it's the same song
_Digital Underground
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