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27 Mar 2019 15:18 #336419 by Kyrin Wyldstar

Williamkaede wrote: If you can't be better than this, then there's some serious work to do.


You have definitely gotten that right! If you have a senior member of council telling you something is true and you still deny it as false just to attack another member on this board, well... my mission as a Ranger continues.

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27 Mar 2019 15:23 #336420 by Proteus

Arisaig wrote: He is still a Knight, still about, and still twice the jedi most can hope to be. It's not and insult, it's a fact.

In the end, Kyrin, you are wrong about this.
Accept it.


Ari, um, that's actually an opinion. I know you respect him as he is your TM, (everyone knows how much I look up to mine), but I'm not sure that declaring such things like that around here is going to come off very fair or mature toward others. I'm just trying to give you a suggestion of awareness.

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27 Mar 2019 15:26 #336421 by Proteus

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Williamkaede wrote: If you can't be better than this, then there's some serious work to do.


You have definitely gotten that right! If you have a senior member of council telling you something is true and you still deny it as false just to attack another member on this board, well... my mission as a Ranger continues.


As far as the continuing social pattern I've seen thus far, as long as you have this so-called mission, you're probably not going to come off any more convincing or successful than the people you are pinning your mission on.

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What I would like to see is the 'I' that knows me when I know that I know that I know.
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27 Mar 2019 15:28 #336422 by Williamkaede
My comment wasn't remotely restricted to Arisaig or even written with him in mind. I've seen quite a few people come and go from here and it doesn't seem to be doing the quality of this Order any favours. The linked thread has quite a few names on it I'm sad to see have left. I'd be quite interested in knowing what schism TOTJO has been through this time and what site they've joined.

Incidentally - what exactly do you seek through all your instigating?

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27 Mar 2019 15:38 #336423 by Arisaig
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Proteus wrote:

Arisaig wrote: He is still a Knight, still about, and still twice the jedi most can hope to be. It's not and insult, it's a fact.

In the end, Kyrin, you are wrong about this.
Accept it.


Ari, um, that's actually an opinion. I know you respect him as he is your TM, (everyone knows how much I look up to mine), but I'm not sure that declaring such things like that around here is going to come off very fair or mature toward others. I'm just trying to give you a suggestion of awareness.


Fairness has nothing to do with it, when the person that I have to defend against won't hesitate to stoop to unfairness themselves. Yes, my view is biased, but it doesn't make it wrong.

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27 Mar 2019 15:44 #336424 by Kyrin Wyldstar

Proteus wrote: As far as the continuing social pattern I've seen thus far, as long as you have this so-called mission, you're probably not going to come off any more convincing or successful than the people you are pinning your mission on.


Its not a social pattern. Its a defensive posture that I have been forced to undertake. As for my "mission" it is not pinned to anyone. Its the pursuit of truth. I have said this many many times before. Thats all it is. I think its an honest mission and a fair one. Do you see it differently?

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27 Mar 2019 15:45 #336425 by Deimos
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I don't think he was saying you're wrong. I think he was saying that the verbage and phrasing was off putting and might come off as, as he put it, immature towards others. Not saying anyone's right or wrong, just saying what I see in this. And I see two differing view points as the focus that can't seem to get along, which saddens me whenever I see two+ people who are very passionate about their beliefs. Can't we all at least try to get alone and see the other side of the fence?

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27 Mar 2019 15:48 #336426 by Williamkaede

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Proteus wrote: As far as the continuing social pattern I've seen thus far, as long as you have this so-called mission, you're probably not going to come off any more convincing or successful than the people you are pinning your mission on.


Its not a social pattern. Its a defensive posture that I have been forced to undertake. As for my "mission" it is not pinned to anyone. Its the pursuit of truth. I have said this many many times before. Thats all it is. I think its an honest mission and a fair one. Do you see it differently?


In the short time I've come back this time I haven't seen you do much more than clash with others. Is this part of your mission?

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27 Mar 2019 15:51 #336427 by Rosalyn J
Our "missions" in a general sense are derived from how we see the world and or how we see the spaces we occuppy, something I like to call narratives.

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27 Mar 2019 15:56 #336428 by Kyrin Wyldstar

Williamkaede wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Proteus wrote: As far as the continuing social pattern I've seen thus far, as long as you have this so-called mission, you're probably not going to come off any more convincing or successful than the people you are pinning your mission on.


Its not a social pattern. Its a defensive posture that I have been forced to undertake. As for my "mission" it is not pinned to anyone. Its the pursuit of truth. I have said this many many times before. Thats all it is. I think its an honest mission and a fair one. Do you see it differently?


In the short time I've come back this time I haven't seen you do much more than clash with others. Is this part of your mission?


Im afraid you are going to have to be more specific? What do you mean by "clash"?

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