What would help the Temple Be A Better Place? Suggestions please...

Manu wrote: I still insist the IP should be compulsory for membership. Even if one does not wish to pursue Ordination nor Knighthood, it's a good introduction to Jediism.

I could get behind that, definitely.

Wescli Wardest wrote: " Right now the only mechanism for replacing them with effective people is waiting for them to decide to step down."

There is another mechanism, it takes a magority vote in Council.

You're telling me the only way to get rid of officers (including council members) is by a council vote? That system seems...sketchy.

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Another thing I think would help the Temple are basic grasps of logic and long-term planning. Right now, for example, IIT are people saying that IP journals should be private (which reduces the capacity for us to learn from others, which is a vital aspect of teaching this kind of material), and there are people trying to start a clergy-renaming petition while the clergy has many, many other things they've tasked themselves with doing that should be requiring our full attention.

This place is the god-emperor of putting the cart before the colt, and it's really running me ragged, personally, trying to keep up as the whole set rolls downhill.

To The Dude,
I don't have a problem with information sharing. I have a problem with digital file sharing. Every time you share a digital file, it makes a copy of the material. But, if a member were to mail a copy of their book to a new member, then that would be completely different to me. No copy would be made, and there would be no violation of the First Sale law.

How do you expect writers to make a living if everything they create is given away for free?

Sure, if we lived in a socialist society, that would work. And, I'd be happy, in that scenario, to provide as much free information as warranted. Hell, if I were given a basic income, I'd throw all my music out there for free all the time too.

But, we live in a capitalist world, still. And, content creators deserve attribution and money for their intellectual content... so they can afford to stay in this business.

I don't understand why people don't think that is true. And, it's very disheartening to me that people feel entitled to such intellectual property.

To Manu, I kind of love the idea of having to complete the IP before gaining membership. AND, I also like the idea of doing the IP off-site and manually. I believe that it would cut down on people who are not serious while still allowing people to participate on the forums. That would greatly increase what it means to be a Jedi at this site. We'd need to flesh it out more... of course.

Steam, that also kind of scares me... perhaps we could introduce a referendum clause to help usher people out of office? Or, at least a referendum of Knights?

There are broken links. A lot of them. Please, do something with them -- anything. At least change the broken links in DQS lessons and the FAQ.

I've posted about this in the librarians log, you know of a broken link, make it public there or post to me in a pm, I'll add it to the "to do" list...

TheDude wrote: And they're not all available in the library all of the time.

I would extend that suggestion to all esoteric practice. Other Jedi communities have clear sections for discussing esotericism, and those kinds of teachings are readily available in the temple library. The fact that there isn't any such section on TOTJO makes me feel as if discussing esoterics, meditation, or generally the more "mystical" stuff is frowned on in some way. Perhaps that is just my own feeling and not the intent, but I don't see very many of those conversations happening very often and I assume that others have the same feeling...


There are broken links. A lot of them. Please, do something with them -- anything. At least change the broken links in DQS lessons and the FAQ.

The assistant Librarian was looking into adding more original content to the library.

And we are talking about making a mediation sub-forum. Of course adding it as a section of the library is not out of the question.

I gave our assistant librarian the ability to fix the broken links. And he was doing an excellent job. But someone decided that they needed to take that away from him. So we’ll have to wait till the links get fixed by some other means I guess.

I was doing it for a while. But there is just so much to do to keep everything running that I just can’t do it all by myself. Hence why I gave our assistant librarian the ability to fix them.

I'm a simple man. I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food.

Sorry, couldn't resist the Ron Swanson quote.

Honestly there are only two things I would really like to see here: more visible involvement from Knights and specifically Councilors, and more discussion around the Doctrine in the forum. Even if it's just mentioning which part of the Doctrine you think applies most to the discussion at hand.

I also wanted to bring up Nakis' post from a page back that I really liked.

Nakis wrote: I'm mildly curious as to how the council and others who are working in the administration feel about this and what more can be done on our (non-council/administration personnel) end as well. Perhaps there are things that can be done to help out or process things faster.

I've always been more of an ask not what your country/temple can do for you kind of guy. It might need a split off but I think we should focus on what everyone at any level can do, not just those "above."

Wescli Wardest wrote: there is just so much to do to keep everything running that I just can’t do it all by myself

This is precisely the problem those who want term limits/other mechanisms for removing ineffective Councillors are seeking to address... you shouldn't have to do it all by yourself.

There's supposed to be a whole Council of people there to do it with you, and a whole community of potential Officers to support the work.

Believe it or not Goken, when I have used our doctrine to illustrated a point of view I have been accused of just reciting doctrine at people.

I would love to discuss more about how current events and issues interact with or how our doctrine might reflect on these topics but it seems many would prefer to just give their opinions. Which is a valid discussion but often times doesn’t have much to do with Jediism.

tzb wrote:

Wescli Wardest wrote: there is just so much to do to keep everything running that I just can’t do it all by myself

This is precisely the problem those who want term limits/other mechanisms for removing ineffective Councillors are seeking to address... you shouldn't have to do it all by yourself.

There's supposed to be a whole Council of people there to do it with you, and a whole community of potential Officers to support the work.

I would agree. But that is not how everyone seems to see it or where there focus is or tends to be.

What can we do to get the focus there? Whose backsides do we need to light fires under?