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19 Mar 2018 16:08 #319142
by Kit
Policies on submission itself? Or how we check things? The submission is simply the Novice going to one of the POCs and saying "I'm done". Then the checking process is started. I can lay that out if you'd like
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Twigga wrote: Dear Kit,
What are the policies on IP submission?
I feel if there are some, we should know.
Policies on submission itself? Or how we check things? The submission is simply the Novice going to one of the POCs and saying "I'm done". Then the checking process is started. I can lay that out if you'd like
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19 Mar 2018 17:21 #319152
by Kit
Not usually unless the Knight tells them. It's kind of a "I'm free, I've got this" kind of thing.
That's part of the reason for the two person checks is to ensure fairness. There's not an official policy in place about having someone else check out a journal but depending on the circumstance, it could be done. Typically with the way we record and share how we check and what message we sent to the Novice, there's oversight on the process.
But say you feel I'm being unreasonable in my requirements on your journal because I'm holding a grudge that you wouln't share your last mint with me
. You are welcome to go to any Knight and bring it up with them. They already have access to your journal, and the IP checks section of the forum, so can see the requirements I'm making of you (provided I'm reporting them but then you can submit screen shots and all that and that's a bigger deal than just butting heads over the IP)
If you don't feel comfortable with any Knight, you could either start with your IP Team Sponsor (if you have one), the IP Team Lead (MadHatter) if you're comfortable with him, or you could even reach out to the Clergy too. If they're not Knights themselves, they'll know who can help you. But anyone else can look into it and see if I'm being fair and just holding up the standards, or are trying to keep you from making Initiate. (because mints are worth fighting for!)
I suppose this is all a kind of unnoficial process... that a new Novice wouldn't know. I think we need to find a good place to put something like this. *puff*
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Twigga wrote: Is the Initiate made aware of which Knights are checking their journal before they begin?
Is it possible for them to request an alternative reader if they feel uncomfortable with the judgements of a particular person being passed on their journal? (unfortunately, personality clashes do happen, and we are all human...)
Not usually unless the Knight tells them. It's kind of a "I'm free, I've got this" kind of thing.
That's part of the reason for the two person checks is to ensure fairness. There's not an official policy in place about having someone else check out a journal but depending on the circumstance, it could be done. Typically with the way we record and share how we check and what message we sent to the Novice, there's oversight on the process.
But say you feel I'm being unreasonable in my requirements on your journal because I'm holding a grudge that you wouln't share your last mint with me
. You are welcome to go to any Knight and bring it up with them. They already have access to your journal, and the IP checks section of the forum, so can see the requirements I'm making of you (provided I'm reporting them but then you can submit screen shots and all that and that's a bigger deal than just butting heads over the IP)If you don't feel comfortable with any Knight, you could either start with your IP Team Sponsor (if you have one), the IP Team Lead (MadHatter) if you're comfortable with him, or you could even reach out to the Clergy too. If they're not Knights themselves, they'll know who can help you. But anyone else can look into it and see if I'm being fair and just holding up the standards, or are trying to keep you from making Initiate. (because mints are worth fighting for!)
I suppose this is all a kind of unnoficial process... that a new Novice wouldn't know. I think we need to find a good place to put something like this. *puff*
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19 Mar 2018 17:37 #319154
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Next question: My journal is FAR from tidy. It's not just that I have stuff in there that's out of the IP order, but I have stuff in there that really isn't IP! However I think much of it is informative on who/what/when/where/how... it's appropriate for a TM or the clergy to read; but probably not necessary if my only intention is to attain Initiate rank (Like my super heroine greeter-of-all-newcomers elizabeth). Is it better for me to make a separate "Read this for passing IP" journal, or am I better off just leaving it all for you guys to comb through? I have insights on "Jediism to me" in posts that I didn't stick a title on 
but on the other hand, I value your guys' time and it may only be necessary for a future TM or the seminary folks to read the WHOLE thing.
but on the other hand, I value your guys' time and it may only be necessary for a future TM or the seminary folks to read the WHOLE thing. Please Log in to join the conversation.
19 Mar 2018 19:26 #319157
by Kit
You journal is your journal to arrange as you see fit. It just needs to include all the lessons! When I was doing the IP I wanted to watch my growth and mindset along with the IP so I posted my non-IP stuff right along with my IP in the same journal. My IP had separate posts and were titled with the lessons and that's really all we'd ask for. If they're not titled, we might miss it but that's a simple fix. All you''d have to do is send the link to where it is. We do have some standards were looking for (listed in the IP lessons themselves) but beyond that, the journals are for you, not for us. Do what helps you learn best. We can work around you!
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Twigga wrote: Next question: My journal is FAR from tidy. It's not just that I have stuff in there that's out of the IP order, but I have stuff in there that really isn't IP! However I think much of it is informative on who/what/when/where/how... it's appropriate for a TM or the clergy to read; but probably not necessary if my only intention is to attain Initiate rank (Like my super heroine greeter-of-all-newcomers elizabeth). Is it better for me to make a separate "Read this for passing IP" journal, or am I better off just leaving it all for you guys to comb through? I have insights on "Jediism to me" in posts that I didn't stick a title on
You journal is your journal to arrange as you see fit. It just needs to include all the lessons! When I was doing the IP I wanted to watch my growth and mindset along with the IP so I posted my non-IP stuff right along with my IP in the same journal. My IP had separate posts and were titled with the lessons and that's really all we'd ask for. If they're not titled, we might miss it but that's a simple fix. All you''d have to do is send the link to where it is. We do have some standards were looking for (listed in the IP lessons themselves) but beyond that, the journals are for you, not for us. Do what helps you learn best. We can work around you!
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