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I "flipped" to what I was looking for and then before I closed it I decided to check out the table of content pages again. There I find an entire section dedicated to various "force powers":Jedi Mind Tricks, Telekenisis, etc.
I read the TK section and found it extremely interesting. So, here I am, presenting all of you with a question. Have any of you ever tried this out? If so, to what degree of success? Is it something you advise a fellow Jedi to look into?
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Also, anyone that went around claiming such abilities I would be suspicious of. If someone was able to do any of it with any dependable, repeatable result… I think it would have been all over the media by now.
But… I will end with this. Don’t let anyone tell you what to believe. If you think it’s possible, trust your feelings. Without our beliefs and our faith, what are we basing our religions on.
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I DON'T view Jedi as "super heroes", "special people", "chosen people", or "gifted people" (unless they really are). So I don't see the point in trying to study "force powers", since people who believe that real Jedi have these "force powers" are usually role players, and not true members of the real Jedi community.
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I would question anyone who ever made claims of supernatural ability. Maybe they do exist. Awesome! :woohoo: But why exactly should we care? Because they're 'cool'? A Jedi shouldn't do things because 'it is cool'...
How many people can you help with 'power', if that is even worthy of such a description, like that, as opposed to maybe spending the time teaching or volunteering etc?
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I've read the holocron a few times, and some of the powers described Ifind difficult to buy into...however that is simply because of my experience and desire to fully understand things, that does not mean they are any less real or any more real...the power of belief is an amazing thing...Ido believe the mind is a persons most powerful tool/weapon...when Iplayed football we had a saying: what my mind can conceive, my body can achieve...Ibelieve in this saying...after all the mind controls the body...
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Dreton Vas Suiver wrote: Ok, So I had some doubts on something about our religion and downloaded the Great Jedi Holocron onto my iPad.
I "flipped" to what I was looking for and then before I closed it I decided to check out the table of content pages again. There I find an entire section dedicated to various "force powers":Jedi Mind Tricks, Telekenisis, etc.
I read the TK section and found it extremely interesting. So, here I am, presenting all of you with a question. Have any of you ever tried this out? If so, to what degree of success? Is it something you advise a fellow Jedi to look into?
TK isn't mind over matter. It is the storage, fusion and release of yin and yang energy from the human body.
There is no free lunch either.
You can't will something to move with your mind.
You can spend thousands of hours in meditation to store energy like a capacitor for later use.
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Rickie The Grey wrote: These "powers" are magnifed out of perportion by imagination, fantasy, desire for power and the movies. Ibelieve many of these "powers" are real and natural but on very fine energy levels more refined than the brute images that commonly portray them.
Rickie, if anything these "powers" are limited and constrained by the movies.
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Wescli Wardest wrote: I think it would have been all over the media by now.
You mean like Tummo meditation (inner fire) master Wim Hof? He has his own commercials even. Two clinical studies, 18 world records, countless television appearances.
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Akkarin wrote: But why exactly should we care? Because they're 'cool'?
I don't think most people should "care", it's not for everyone.
The best answer I can think of is because the individual desires to become something more, to undergo a metamorphosis, to reach the next stage of biological evolution.
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SeanChing wrote: So I don't see the point in trying to study "force powers", since people who believe that real Jedi have these "force powers" are usually role players, and not true members of the real Jedi community.
Person who studies "force powers" here.
I am not a role player, and cannot stand such people.
However I also don't consider myself a Jedi, or associate myself with the Jedi philosophy and community any more than necessary.
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They were written at a time when a lot of people were interested in metaphysical studies of being psychic and the like, but you would be surprised what those things opened up for the people that studied them. They were advanced later on by members who took a mystic approach to things in the old guard. But it was dropped shortly after an incident between two members of opposing factions took the direction to something a little more detrimental.
Other orders stuck to the basics of astral travel, not fully delving into the real power you can gain by undergoing these practices. Members that ventured outside (or are now venturing outside) of traditional books to receive real time training are learning to advance their own training programs to get back to where our community use to be with these force abilities.
The only group that has remained steady as a full team utilizing the Metaphysical realm to teach their path is the Sith of Order of the Sith and the FA's Dark Aspect is reviving it starting with the I Ching as recently as last night.
You have to look for those that are willing to teach it the way it's evolved anymore. But it's great to start at the basics and expand from there with the assistance of others that are further along the mystic path.
Akkarin: for the record, you can help people with the right skill set and applied properly. But many do not know how to teach it so that it helps others anymore. That's what some of us are working on fixing though. IJRS is moving towards healing methods, and my own skill set is more in the realm of Astral-Psychology.
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As it may seem tha i am pushing an air current with my hand, you"ll notice the paper "curving" at some points. I can only do this with small peices of paper.
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Jabi Musah wrote: Amen! To what Wim Hof says in the video above. (specifically at the end)
Skip to 7:38
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