[S.I.G. Eastern Studies] - Zen Buddhist teacher Dogen

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31 May 2016 19:54 - 31 May 2016 19:56 #242885 by Jestor

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Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....


"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching


Rite: PureLand
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Master: Jasper_Ward
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Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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01 Jun 2016 00:24 #242907 by Adder
I love mixing Taoism and Buddhism together, and its like a lot of Zen is along those lines isnt it!?

What it's saying sound a bit like... bden 'dzin, as in bending za world into your own frame of reference!

Being the grasping onto concepts, which it is said obscure or distort the true nature of reality - or at least (depending on ones beliefs) a novel, more engaging form of perception.

It's the question that drives us Neo.

But grasping manifests in our behaviour more broadly, upādāna, as in those make us go and down as we cycle through fixation and grasping on meeting our own needs above and before anything else!!

I'd say it's not just Soto Zen, indeed I've read that is the nature of taking refugee in the Three Jewels, (basically all Buddhism?) to escape the instincts for grasping and to eliminate the delusion it fuels. Different authors, and different pieces appeal to different people and different points on their path. There is so much material in Eastern spirituality and philosophy!!!! I guess we lost a lot in Europe with the Church cracking down on heretical material perhaps.

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01 Jun 2016 01:06 #242909 by CableSteele
Sorry, off topic but does anyone else see the family resemblance here?

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01 Jun 2016 01:39 #242912 by Jestor

being a Zen master automatically knocks you off the list of great philosophers.


I guess this is what stumps me....

I guess I didn't realize that some folks do not consider Zen as a philosophy....

Lol...

Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....


"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching


Rite: PureLand
TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter

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08 Nov 2017 17:05 #305677 by Kasumi
If anyone's interested, the Nishijima/Cross translation of Dogen's Shobogenzo (True Dharma Eye) is available for free here: 21dzk.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/BDK/bdk_search.php

I'll go ahead and admit I haven't read the whole thing (because it's 4 volumes), but I come back to Dogen's Instructions for the Cook in my daily life pretty often.

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