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Temple Renovation (30 May 2020)

The Temple has undergone renovations. Please see here for more details:

www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/114-A...s/123927-renovations

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20 Jul 2017 04:05 #291803 by Manu
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JamesSand wrote: I don't want to be one of those wishy-washy people, but let's not get dramatic about things just because it's a quiet week and we have not had an extremist member to "gang up" on and make us all feel together-y against a common "enemy"


Ah man! Now why do you have to use sarcasm and humor to take the edge off and offer some perspective?

Thank you :)

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20 Jul 2017 12:46 - 20 Jul 2017 12:50 #291829 by Zenchi
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Rosalyn J wrote: I can't give you answers because I don't have them, but I can offer a listening ear if you are concerned, afraid, unsure of your own next steps. Here if you need.

Ros


Please pay attention if you are in a position of authority within this Temple, THIS is how you answer questions regarding the concerns of our members and guests...

Regardless if you have the answers or not, please show some empathy or compassion in replying...

The dismissing of people's concerns really needs to stop altogether....

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20 Jul 2017 13:28 #291832 by Wescli Wardest
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As I stated in my announcement, “I have reached the point where I am no longer aligned with the objectives, values and direction of TOTJO's governance or members of her governing body.”

Did my path change? Did theirs? Did I just notice something I was blind to before?

Who knows?

IF that doesn’t fairly enough settle the question, anyone is free to PM me and ask. I will reply as diplomatically as possible and try to satisfactorily address any concerns or inquiries.

But I can only speak for myself.

Thank you :)

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20 Jul 2017 13:33 #291834 by Manu
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Zenchi wrote:

Rosalyn J wrote: I can't give you answers because I don't have them, but I can offer a listening ear if you are concerned, afraid, unsure of your own next steps. Here if you need.

Ros


Please pay attention if you are in a position of authority within this Temple, THIS is how you answer questions regarding the concerns of our members and guests...

Regardless if you have the answers or not, please show some empathy or compassion in replying...

The dismissing of people's concerns really needs to stop altogether....


Thank you Zenchi. *bows*

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20 Jul 2017 14:29 - 20 Jul 2017 14:30 #291840 by Kyrin Wyldstar
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But still, no one has answered the question, (or attempted to answer the question) as to what those "objectives, values and direction of TOTJO's governance" are??

Maybe this cant be answered either? If not, does that become a cause for concern?

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20 Jul 2017 14:48 #291845 by Atticus
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: But still, no one has answered the question, (or attempted to answer the question) as to what those "objectives, values and direction of TOTJO's governance" are??

Maybe this cant be answered either? If not, does that become a cause for concern?

I can empathize with the desire to understand what this may mean for the continued functioning of the Temple. But the only person who can explain what Wes meant by that is Wes, and if he chooses not to get into detail, that is his prerogative. I can think of half a dozen legitimate reasons why he may want to exercise discretion and not say further. Speaking only for myself, it matters less why X happened than what we take away from X going forward.
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20 Jul 2017 14:49 #291846 by Senan
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: But still, no one has answered the question, (or attempted to answer the question) as to what those "objectives, values and direction of TOTJO's governance" are??

Maybe this cant be answered either? If not, does that become a cause for concern?


I believe these are the conversations we are currently having right now. The Clergy is discussing naming conventions and organization of rank, the Knights have asked for more transparency and are currently nominating representatives to Council. Apprentices are being asked for input as well. Forums are being added and new lessons are being worked on for the IP. A Confidant Session Form is being created so that our Clergy can better assist members in crisis. Work is being done.

The conversations are taking place and progress is being made. It just takes a little time. As they continue, we will see a more concrete view of the objectives and direction of the Temple. As for the values, we have a Doctrine for that.

I hope this helps alleviate some of the concerns, but honestly, I think that is part of the issue with Councillors stepping back. No answer seems to be good enough and it is probably exhausting trying to constantly defend yourself.

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