The force before Jediism?

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18 Jul 2013 03:07 #113101 by Aldersees
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In my understanding Jediism is a fairly new religion, and I completely understand that it is a seperate entity from Star Wars and only using the name Jedi because the term correlates with already established beliefs (from my understanding, I could be totally wrong :)). But when did the concept of a Force first come into play? Thats the main question that seems to intrigue me the most. Is it just assumed that the force has always been there or is it apart of an ancient religion and only revitilized through Jediism? Forgive me if I am being ignorant, I am fairly new to this philosphy/relgion. I did a little research and did not turn up any results. Can anyone give me a link to a site or even explain themselves? It would prove useful when dealing with people in the future who think I worship George Lucas. Thank you for your time! :)

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18 Jul 2013 03:42 #113104 by Adder
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That would make a good exercise, pick a point in history and work out what the Force was called at that time throughout the world (if at all)!!!

Things like the Tao , Qi , Dharma , Brahman , Holy Spirit , etc are good places to consider.

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18 Jul 2013 05:33 #113110 by Adder
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18 Jul 2013 08:46 #113113 by Alexandre Orion
Tao Te Ching 4 (Goddard translation) :

The [Force] appears to be emptiness but it is never exhausted.
Oh, it is profound!
It appears to have preceded everything.
It dulls its own sharpness,
unravels its own fetters,
softens its own brightness,
identifies itself with its own dust.

Chaque homme a des devoirs envers l'homme en tant qu'homme.
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18 Jul 2013 09:04 #113115 by Akkarin
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Aldersees wrote: But when did the concept of a Force first come into play? Thats the main question that seems to intrigue me the most. Is it just assumed that the force has always been there or is it apart of an ancient religion and only revitilized through Jediism?


You unwittingly already know the answer:

I completely understand that it is a seperate entity from Star Wars and only using the name Jedi[Force] because the term correlates with already established beliefs

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18 Jul 2013 16:28 #113135 by Alethea Thompson
You could watch the long version (15 parts), or read the short version .
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18 Jul 2013 16:39 #113137 by Aldersees
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Alethea Thompson wrote: You could watch the long version (15 parts), or read the short version .


Wow! Thank you! That was incredibly informative and well written!

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18 Jul 2013 16:49 #113138 by Zephyrus
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Despite her Novice rank here, Alethea is a veteran Jedi and has been active for many years.

Always love returning to those videos.

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18 Jul 2013 17:20 #113140 by Donkey
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Alexandre Orion wrote: Tao Te Ching 4 (Goddard translation) :

The [Force] appears to be emptiness but it is never exhausted.
Oh, it is profound!
It appears to have preceded everything.
It dulls its own sharpness,
unravels its own fetters,
softens its own brightness,
identifies itself with its own dust.


Ohhhh I like that translation. softens its own brightness.....Very poetic

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19 Jul 2013 01:14 #113197 by Zanthan Storm
Jediism, as I see it, is a unifying relgion. Not that it would solve all the religous differences, (though how awesome would that be?!) rather is using those (almost) universal established beliefs that are time proven.

To give an exact time of when the concept, "The Force," was first used to describe them.... Well.... in a reality. I know for a fact, I heard of it back in 2000. Which is what I think you were exactly looking for?

The rest seems to have been covered by Alethea who is, as usual, on the ball!

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