The Empire Strikes Back

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07 Jun 2019 23:32 - 07 Jun 2019 23:34 #339423 by Uzima Moto
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Trump is a clown and a pirate. An opportunist and demagogue.. not a racist..

Hillary was a Corporate shill and is all about power, like her husband..

Presidents are selected, not elected..

One man IS NOT going to change America..

It's going to take the people to understand the rights NATURE gives them, not privileges Government creates, and MAKE THE GOVERNMENT RESPECT THEM.. Welfare is a civil right to those who the Government is responsible for.. if those who created that government created that service.. not for those who are unlawful residents.. the ABSOLUTE right to your person, possessions(body included), and the means to defend them, is naturally inherent in you being an independent reasoning being..

Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem
By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty.
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10 Jun 2019 14:37 #339502 by ZealotX
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Uzima Moto wrote: Trump is a clown and a pirate. An opportunist and demagogue.. not a racist..

Hillary was a Corporate shill and is all about power, like her husband..

Presidents are selected, not elected..

One man IS NOT going to change America..

It's going to take the people to understand the rights NATURE gives them, not privileges Government creates, and MAKE THE GOVERNMENT RESPECT THEM.. Welfare is a civil right to those who the Government is responsible for.. if those who created that government created that service.. not for those who are unlawful residents.. the ABSOLUTE right to your person, possessions(body included), and the means to defend them, is naturally inherent in you being an independent reasoning being..


How do you know someone is NOT a racist?

It's not hard to show that someone IS a racist by things they say and do. In his latest interview Jared Kushner was asked if Trump's birtherism was racist and all he could say was that he had nothing to do with that. So you know what that means from Trump's own son in law? That YES, his father-in-law is racist and birtherism was racist and he wouldn't have done anything, at least, as overt as that.

Again, racism is typically not one of those things a person goes around proclaiming about themselves. Fred Trump must have been quite comfortable to have gotten arrested at a KKK march (hint: He wasn't protesting against the klan). He could have accidentally been swept up in the brawl between the klan and police but if he wasn't there in support then why did...

The New York Times — drawing on decades-old files from the New York City Commission on Human Rights, internal Justice Department records, court documents and interviews with tenants, civil rights activists and prosecutors — uncovered a long history of racial bias at his family’s properties, in New York and beyond.

www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/d...mp-housing-race.html

"He said, 'Well, I'm only doing what my boss told me to do — I am not allowed to rent to black tenants,' " Morse says.

The commissioner asked the building superintendent to take him to his boss. That turned out to be Trump Management.

www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-...-discrimination-case

In 1973, Richard Nixon’s Department of Justice sued the Trump family business for refusing to rent or negotiate rentals “because of race and color”.

It also charged that the company had required prohibitively stringent rental terms and conditions to black applicants and had lied about unit availability to keep black residents out. A then 26-year-old Donald Trump was the president of the company at the time.

In a tell-all book, former president of the Trump Plaza Casino John O’Donnell said Trump once told him: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

Last month, Trump is said to have remarked that Haitians “have Aids” and that Nigerian immigrants wouldn’t "go back to their huts" after being allowed into the US.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/...-his-career-and-life

When you apply racial bias from a position of power that is the very definition of racism and most certainly qualifies the person in question as a racist. But please, if you have any evidence that proves he is not a racist, please do share it. From where I'm sitting though, all these things, including his role in the MAGA agenda, are not coincidence. As I said before, I don't think supporting MAGA means that someone is a racist. However, I do think that any racist would definitely support the MAGA agenda and would probably not be racist if they didn't.

As far as conspiracy theories about presidents being selected... I don't know if I believe that anymore. I used to. I think the selection is more like... "hey Mr. X, the Masonic lodge would support you if you ran for president." That person may have been thinking about it before and may have asked his fraternal group(s) if they thought it was a good idea. I think the idea that fraternal groups would just pick someone isn't realistic. Instead, it's more likely the same as how Washington works in general. Influence. Politics.

It takes influence in order to get the money needed to run. But there are 2 paths to that money. There's the corporate path that involves big donors who will definitely expect their backs well scratched. Then there's the grass roots path. If the grass roots path is successful then, aside from cheating, there's little the "powers that be" can do to stop it. They can't produce more votes. They have to buy them with advertising. Thanks to a lot of past presidents it's easy to believe all these conspiracies but I find most conspiracy theories fundamentally flawed in that it takes too much effort to pull them off without producing a string of evidence. People tend to take the easier path and many conspiracies are substantially more difficult and therefore should only be thought to be used if an easier pathway is unavailable.

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