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Mortose: Public Journal

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02 Feb 2014 23:15 #136132 by The Old Doris
But I am not Jedi Master Jester, I have embraced the Sith way.. And of course your right.. Apology to Mortose would indeed have opened up a vent of pleasure on her part.. And for the record I did only stated girl because in a Skype group conversation some time last year Mortose stated her gender.. I know Master Lightning Strike was talking and young Lou and I believe Master Alethea was also in the conversation...

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02 Feb 2014 23:18 #136133 by The Old Doris

Zenchi wrote:

The Old Doris wrote: Dear Elizabeth I'm sorry you believe that, Mortose and I are Sith.. I was simply responding how Sith engage with each other, without emotion but matter of fact.. There was no emotional intent. I can assure you. I can that the sith way is not welcome here.. My apologies Elizabeth


The "Sith Way?" Last time I talked with Mort She confirmed He wasn't a Sith, not that it matters. It's not the "Sith way" people have a problem with, it's how you approach it.....


really when did Mortose stop being Sith, this is new news to me .. You are also right my approach should have been different

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02 Feb 2014 23:21 #136134 by Brenna
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The Old Doris wrote: But I am not Jedi Master Jester, I have embraced the Sith way.. And of course your right.. Apology to Mortose would indeed have opened up a vent of pleasure on her part.. And for the record I did only stated girl because in a Skype group conversation some time last year Mortose stated her gender.. I know Master Lightning Strike was talking and young Lou and I believe Master Alethea was also in the conversation...


It is relatively common knowledge that Mortose identifies as male. The physical gender is irrelevant either way.

And Ive not seen either of you question any of the other transgendered members of the Temple, of which there are quite a few...



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02 Feb 2014 23:22 #136135 by Jestor
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Ah.

Well I saw that Sammy, and, I apologize for butting into the conversation, but you know how I roll...;)

Back to the shadows for me....;)

Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....


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02 Feb 2014 23:23 - 02 Feb 2014 23:28 #136137 by The Old Doris
Arrr, now I see, I've known Mortose some time, not here granted and I haven't heard Mortose UNTIL NOW, been refer to as MALE..
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02 Feb 2014 23:25 - 02 Feb 2014 23:29 #136138 by The Old Doris
That's coz I don't know until I ask what other transgender temples members there Brena.. Like I said I only state girl because Mortose stated it in a conversation..
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02 Feb 2014 23:31 #136142 by Jon
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I ask myself what use is there in apologising for having burnt yourself? Just do not play with fire again. Do not try to fool us as you try to yourself, your intention was clear as was that of the call you blindly followed.

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02 Feb 2014 23:39 #136145 by ren
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Mortose wrote:

The Old Doris wrote: Is it a problem clarifying your gender ?


You mean the gender of my body that I had no part in selecting? No. However, how is it relevant to this journal?


I hope you don't mind me asking...

But you're the sperm that made it it... So, did you select yourself?

If you did not select yourself, can you ever say that any part of you has or will ever be be capable of making a choice in what you are? physically but also your thoughts, beliefs, etc? Do you choose to write in this journal?

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02 Feb 2014 23:39 #136146 by Brenna
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The Old Doris wrote: That's coz I don't know until I ask what other transgender temples members there Brena.. Like I said I only state girl because Mortose stated it in a conversation..

Alethea Thompson wrote: Mortose is a physical female, just thought I'd clarify that.

The Old Doris wrote: I concur with Ally, Mortose is a girl



I guess im simply curious as to why either of you would state it at all. What difference does it make.



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02 Feb 2014 23:48 #136148 by Alethea Thompson
My bringing it up is that there was an automatic assumption that Mortose is a male. It is also why I specified PHYSICALLY rather than it being Mortose's gender. And actually, the fact that Mortose may identify with a gender which is not Mortose's physical attributes can go a long way in addressing Mortose in future endeavors.

I brought it to light so that Mortose can clarify which one Mortose feels would be appropriate. It makes for an interesting conversation piece though. And in fact, lends a great deal of understanding in to the psyche of a person which claims the dark. I find it quite fascinating that there is only one person in the community which is both Jedi and has a detachment from their physical identity. Interestingly enough, everyone else I know with such a detachment aligns themselves with the dark or the shadow. Mortose is no different.

I would be highly interested to hear what role your gender plays in the grand scheme of darkness, how you deal with being trapped in a woman's body.

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