Compassion and Understanding

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24 Mar 2017 20:37 - 27 Mar 2017 17:47 #278987 by Proteus
I watched this on youtube, "I grew up in Westboro Baptist Church and this is why I left" and I felt it was something important to share here with all of you.

When I listened to her, I thought about what she was saying on a number of different levels, on a world scale of religiousy, politically, socially, but also of the smaller scales, like the way we communicate here in the temple toward anyone who we don't agree with and even find ourselves wanting to be repulsed or personally insulted by.

If I may... I would like to ask as many of you as possible to listen to this woman for what could be a very important 15 minutes of your day, and whether or not you respond in this thread, it would be nice if you simply reflected on what she says for yourself and your path as Jedi, and in the future both near and far, do whatever you can to be reminded of the points made here whenever you encounter anyone who rubs you the wrong way.

Thank you. :)



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27 Mar 2017 17:44 #279214 by Proteus
I suppose this might be a shameless bump since I'm not sure if many really got to see the thread. :)

It seems that I know that I know.
What I would like to see is the 'I' that knows me when I know that I know that I know.
- Alan Watts
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27 Mar 2017 21:54 #279230 by Adder
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I love the 4 key points!! So very true. Almost like a mandatory viewing if we ever build a group dynamics or cult modules perhaps.

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28 Mar 2017 00:36 #279237 by baru
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The cure is care
Care leads to connection, which allows for the cure to our disease to happen.

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28 Mar 2017 00:49 #279239 by baru
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Change begins with you, and its an inside job.
If you want to change the world - change yourself.
Create the world that you want to live in around yourself.
Do the work, because only you can.

Four steps:
assume open, clear intent.
Ask questions: Listen, ask, share, ask
Ease and calm. Hold your center, calm cool and collect. maintain the stance that you want to have in the conversation verse mirroring or matching.
Make the case, ask the questions, and engage.

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29 Mar 2017 21:15 - 29 Mar 2017 21:15 #279382 by Pcoronaf
Thanks you for sharing, I liked it very much. The message is very relates to the Temple philosophy.
Somehow the key points are reflected in the Doctrine but this give us tools to communicate in a different way, giving the other opportunity to make their point without judging , being empathic and trying to get where they come from, their framework and paradigms. Opening the conversation asking questions, not being afraid of discussing and exchanging opinions, to actually make our argument and being clear about it. This discussion doesn't mean a fight but an exchange of opinions, point of view and event the background that lead us tho reach those thoughts, then we can start a real conversation from the understanding of the other. Remaining calm and respect is a key factor and I continuously work on this, to think before answer, to cool down before giving my opinion, not to judge and if I must, to understand first.

I will be sharing this in and outside of the temple.

Thanks
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29 Mar 2017 21:27 #279387 by OB1Shinobi
i enjoyed the video a lot.

what i took from it was that its ok to disagree with people, and its ok to talk about our disagreements honestly. we dont have to take it personally when someone sees things differently and we dont have to interpret it as waging war on each other. people can value each other even when they have different opinions.

the steps she suggests are pretty logical. not easy, but simple, like she said.
thanks for sharing this

People are complicated.
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05 Apr 2017 01:08 #279979 by Alethea Thompson


This is a powerful TED Talk. It's good to look at from just the prospective of life, even when it's not applied to the political. I recommend listening to the video. I believe this is pretty well sums up my views on Tolerance as it's described in the Jedi Compass.

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05 Apr 2017 01:15 #279980 by JamesSand
I think we had this already, quite recently?

Do they merge threads around here?

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05 Apr 2017 01:19 #279981 by Avalon
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We did. Proteus shared it in this thread: www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/open-...on-and-understanding

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