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09 Nov 2020 11:38 #356035 by Wescli Wardest
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OB1Shinobi wrote: At what point is revenge justifiable?



Revenge is not the way of the Jedi. Or a Knight.

We should seek justice and balance. If your emotions will not allow you to do that then it might be best to let someone else handle the matter.

That said... for all my efforts I am only human. Fallible and flawed. I can not guaranty that if someone hurt my daughter I would or could let others deal with the situation. :evil:

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09 Nov 2020 14:34 #356041 by rugadd
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You may be right to react that way, just as the police may be right to lock you up for it. This is a major struggle for people, in my mind: We can say "no" to reality all we want, but I'm pretty sure the whole shebang will continue on if one person kills another, or even if a comet smashes us to smithereens. Morals, ethics: these are not intrinsic to all of reality. No amount of justice weighs even an ounce. Humans created these ideas, and like a child playing with a knife and a piece of wood trying to be a master carpenter, we often fall short and end up injuring ourselves.

Of course, if you don't practice...

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09 Nov 2020 14:48 #356042 by rugadd
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To be clear, I have my own morals and ethics: I am human after all and it is within us to decided these things. Expecting anyone else to share what I view as right and correct is foolish in my mind, though. I can say, as Jedi, I am on the side of life, but that is connected to the idea that we are All One Creature. I don't smash flies, I put them outside, or ignore them, but I will squish a mosquito who bit me. Wescli would be correct in my mind to defend their children's life by taking one, just as I wouldn't blame the police for locking him up over it. Your dealing with 2 different moral sets at that point: Wescli's and Societies.

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09 Nov 2020 18:41 #356047 by Atania Kenobi
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To begin with, I am very happy with the responses and it'ts the exact reason I created this topic. Now another question, "Does the direction of your head( North, East, South, or West) while sleeping has its benefits?" I found this article parenting.firstcry.com/articles/magazine...s%20in%20your%20life . and if you are someone like me who have troubles sleeping, staying asleep, or constant nightmares might benefit from this, but I can't force you! Before, I usually had my head pointed south for a long time and I did see results, but then 2020 came and I changed it so I was facing the west. Personally, I do feel that this is real and I hope it does benefit you as well. So, I leave this information to you, and May the force be with you!

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09 Nov 2020 20:16 #356049 by dwagoonie
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I have looked into that some years back. I tried all the head facing directions. I still got the ongoing Night Hag, the nightmares of doomsdays and dreams of being in the middle of battlefields or some other life threatening situation. I still had the dreams of dying in every imaginable way possible (very unpleasant btw). What worked for me in the end was inner-child work. I had those kinds of dreams for 20-30 years, I got to the point I was able to feel when things were about to go really bad and I would force myself awake. Now I have restful sleep.

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09 Nov 2020 21:37 #356058 by Atania Kenobi
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Jeez, that sounds really horrible. I'm sorry that you had to go through that. I thought I had control over my waking day after a nightmare, but 2020 happened and now I'm back to square one.

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09 Nov 2020 21:45 #356063 by dwagoonie
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I learned a lot about dream control from it, and most of my fears are either gone or I am able to deal reasonably rather than emotionally from the experiences.

And 2020 happed to everyone world round. It hasn't been an easy year. But it too shall pass.

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10 Nov 2020 06:20 - 10 Nov 2020 06:20 #356077 by Adder
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Well, head pointing a direction will relate to where the morning light will penetrate into the space each morning, and the magnetic field, and where moonlight might penetrate, in relation to your head. Otherwise things like door locations, breeze directions, house wiring, outside/nearby noise sources might have impact as well.

Fun idea though, here is me;
1974->1978: 360° (-02°) = 358mag
1979->1979: 005° (+12°) = 017mag
1980->1981: 340° (+12°) = 355mag
1982->1985: 345° (+12°) = 357mag
1986->1988: 290° (+11°) = 301mag
1989->1992: 090° (+11°) = 101mag
1993->1996: 360° (+11°) = 011mag
1998->2002: 300° (+13°) = 313mag
2002->2003: 270° (+11°) = 281mag
2003->2005: 175° (+11°) = 186mag
2005->2006: 240° (+11°) = 251mag
2006->2008: 120° (+11°) = 131mag
2008->2009: 240° (+11°) = 251mag
2010->2019: 160° (+11°) = 171mag
2020->: 177° (+11°) = 189mag

Skipped a couple of years where I moved a few too many times.

In regards to justice, a system term to represent appropriate placement (of perp) within that system and in this context security to that system. Victims might want revenge, but things like that are subjective variables, too undefined for the establishment to legislate. The decisions made by bodies within the judiciary have to balance the interests of all involved to asses what will be deemed as 'appropriate', be it reaching that threshold of the burden of proof or an amount of remediation etc. You can't go back and rewrite the past, so associations of blame have to carefully mapped to direct cause and effect on one hand, and proof on the other. I think they are the things balanced out.... not necessarily the arguments or suffering of two parties.

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10 Nov 2020 09:24 #356078 by Gisteron
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Atania Kenobi wrote: "Does the direction of your head( North, East, South, or West) while sleeping has its benefits?"

No. Not unless they are some kind of non-natural benefits that at the same time do depend on your body's position but then also have nothing to do with your body. Otherwise they can't have an impact strong enough that you'd have noticed and also weak enough to entirely evade experimental detection. With or without astrology - Indian or otherwise - what is going on inside your head is, essentially, chemistry. We know this well enough that we can manipulate it in various ways by strictly chemical means. Now, yes, sure enough, things like the coriolis effect and the Earth's magnetic field do in principle have a measurable impact on the motion of particles on large enough scales where short-ranged influences are averaged away, but these are conditions that are very far from met inside our bodies. The forces between two ions inside your brain are many orders of magnitude stronger than almost anything the sun, the moon, the stars, or the Earth can do to either of them. Heck, I reckon even how much sugar you put in your evening tea has more of an impact on how you rest that night than whether you lie down facing east or west. For that matter, so can other things, as Adder points out, like airflow, noise sources, and lighting, have an influence. Not enough to mess with your brain directly, but enough to provide stimuli to your senses, directing your attention, perhaps. If however the direction with respect to Earth's spin or magnetic field was any kind of important, a compass would be in any chemist's tool kit for the same reason, while us regular folk could at least roughly tell which direction a bed faces without consulting one (or the sky, for that matter).

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10 Nov 2020 23:42 #356092 by Adder
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Well it is the standard International Terrestrial Reference System and Frame. Something doesn't have to be physical, nor does it have to be discounted out of hand because no science exists to support physical interaction... like magnetic fields. It's just the most handy way we map our space. I guess people can opt to live in corridors and spaces if they choose something like tree structures but that feels a bit too conceptual and not earthy enough for me.

I mean, if we map out our space cognitively in anyway at all then there is an argument for where we 'face' when we sleep having a potential to play a role in how much awareness we have on things in that direction be it from ones history or current events locally or globally. I'd venture that could play into dream content potentially, last thoughts before going to sleep, or initial thoughts upon waking in some instances depending on the sensitivity of those memories. These things could impact ones experience of sleep.

Might be worth noting the role in ones posture during sleep, does your face pull around to face the door, or the foot of the bed when you lay in a comfortable position, is it a good posture or bad posture, or do you contort, or lay squif to avoid a sharp edge on a nearby bedstand.

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